Comments on: UPDATE on Expelled-Gate

By: themadlolscientist

themadlolscientist — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 16:43:01 +0000

My partner in crime left a comment yesterday on one of the YouTube appearances of the Expelled "Super Trailer" and we have yet to see it show up on the page.Hitting the "Post Comment" button gives a message to the effect that the comment is waiting for approval. Ratings have been disabled and every comment that has appeared so far is from people jumping up and down excitedly about what a great flick this is going to be.(Incidentally, favorable comments starting with "thanks [sic] you mr. stein" appear after my friend posted her comment.)They want an open dialog. Yeah, right.I wish my friend had kept a draft copy of the comment in question, which started out: "Ghastly. Simply ghastly," mentioned PZ's having been denied admission to the screening in spite of having appeared in it, and ended with a dare to the producers of Expelled to release the complete interviews on DVD as Dawkins did with a number of his for The Root of All Evil?. I'd have posted it here, but I'm afraid it's been lost forever. I'll ask her to reconstruct it if possible.

By: Chris Tucker

Chris Tucker — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:05:32 +0000

The only comment necessary about “Expelled!”http://img.skitch.com/20080323-11wtmr7efg1dg2q5t223k5bxte.jpgSafe for work!

By: Peter McGrath

Peter McGrath — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:04:41 +0000

Does that mean there’s a wikipedia id-it war?

By: Joshua Zelinsky

Joshua Zelinsky — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:24:18 +0000

Er yes it is notable in the context of Expelled (and as you observed it is mentioned on the Wikipedia page about the movie). But it isn’t sufficiently notable to be an example on the main page of irony.As to being directed away- the word “expelled” goes to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expelled which redirects to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion which includes a link to the movie article.

By: Elizabeth

Elizabeth — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:06:16 +0000

It is very ironic in many ways.

By: HP

HP — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:04:31 +0000

Did you know you can link directly to historical versions of Wikipedia pages?Click the History tab, and scroll through the list for the version you want, then click on the date.Irony, 03:20, 22 March 2008, Breaking the irony meter.And the diff page itself with the edit that removed it.Here's a fun fact: Wikipedia has no entry for "gullibility," thus thwarting the best efforts of today's generation of juvenile pranksters.

By: El Christador

El Christador — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:53:56 +0000

Can’t say it seems particularly ironic.

By: Greg Laden

Greg Laden — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:51:03 +0000

Josh:Thanks for that information, it’s useful. I would say that a picture of Expelled-Gate belongs in the dictionary next to the definition of Irony, but I can see why it would not necessarily fit in the Wikipedia entry on irony. Not because of lack of notability, though. … it is very notable.Having the event recorded in the entry on Expelled! The Movie makes sense, and it is there, however, if you look for “expelled” in the wiki search you are currently directed away from that entry, which seems to be some kind of a glitch.Probably caused by creationists mucking around with the site!!!!! (oh, ok, maybe not)

By: Joshua Zelinsky

Joshua Zelinsky — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:25:59 +0000

Ok, as frequent Wikipedia editor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JoshuaZ ) I can pretty strongly say that this doesn’t belong in the main article on Irony. And looking from the editors who have removed it, they appear to be regular editors trying to explain that it isn’t notable enough for that page. Also, the section on “irony meters” is original research under Wikipedia guidelines and therefore not acceptable. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research ). Please don’t assume that everything is “evolutionists” v. “creationists” in this case it is simple Wikipedians trying to build an encyclopedia consistent with certain policies, goals and guidelines.

By: Travis

Travis — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:34:09 +0000

After looking at the Expelled website, hoping to find a free screening in Chicago, I found this post of a student who claims he was directly behind Dawkins and Myers. He says:”Management of the movie theatre saw a man apparently hustling and bothering several invited attendees, apparently trying to disrupt the viewing or sneak in.”The whole thing is worth a read:http://www.expelledthemovie.com/chronicle.php?article=11Someone is obviously twisting reality… and I have a hunch as to who it is.