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		By: cg		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/02/17/al-gore-for-president/#comment-4194</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Slate had an article last week about how this whole democratic nomination season has strangely mirrored the last season of The West Wing. In the show the first vote failed to yield a winner, and a new candidate entered the field at that time.How very strange if that were to happen as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Slate had an article last week about how this whole democratic nomination season has strangely mirrored the last season of The West Wing. In the show the first vote failed to yield a winner, and a new candidate entered the field at that time.How very strange if that were to happen as well.</p>
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		By: the real cmf		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/02/17/al-gore-for-president/#comment-4193</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[the real cmf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So let me get this right: if Gore was then elected president, and he died in office, the presidency would then go to Gus Hall?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let me get this right: if Gore was then elected president, and he died in office, the presidency would then go to Gus Hall?</p>
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		By: Doug Alder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Alder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[as an addendum to my comment about Al Gore - I think this article in the NYT pretty much sums it uphttp://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-UN-Climate-Investors.html?_r=1&amp;oref=sloginHe&#039;s focusing on the movers and shakers and those are not the politicos but the money men/women]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as an addendum to my comment about Al Gore &#8211; I think this article in the NYT pretty much sums it uphttp://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-UN-Climate-Investors.html?_r=1&#038;oref=sloginHe&#8217;s focusing on the movers and shakers and those are not the politicos but the money men/women</p>
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		By: Doug Alder		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/02/17/al-gore-for-president/#comment-4191</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You have to wonder just how many time Gore has to say he no longer has any desire to ruin for the presidency before people will stop this nonsense. Gore is accomplishing much more for the things he cares deeply about, in his current role, and without having to put up with the hassles, than he could as POTUS]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to wonder just how many time Gore has to say he no longer has any desire to ruin for the presidency before people will stop this nonsense. Gore is accomplishing much more for the things he cares deeply about, in his current role, and without having to put up with the hassles, than he could as POTUS</p>
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		By: Doug Alder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Alder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg:There are a few documentaries and videos  - don&#039;t know how much they focus on the action on the floor - a lot deal with what was happening outside of course.see http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=1968+Democratic+convention&amp;sitesearch=Wikipedia has a ton of info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Democratic_National_Convention]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg:There are a few documentaries and videos  &#8211; don&#8217;t know how much they focus on the action on the floor &#8211; a lot deal with what was happening outside of course.see <a href="http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=1968+Democratic+convention&#038;sitesearch=Wikipedia" rel="nofollow ugc">http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=1968+Democratic+convention&#038;sitesearch=Wikipedia</a> has a ton of info <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Democratic_National_Convention" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Democratic_National_Convention</a></p>
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		By: John of fitness training Austin		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/02/17/al-gore-for-president/#comment-4189</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John of fitness training Austin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is supposedly bad blood between Gore and Clinton; when Gore ran for President he was tainted by all the Clinton scandals.  Gore has a overweening desire to be President. If he ran he could kill two birds with one stone - being Prez and defeating the Clintons.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is supposedly bad blood between Gore and Clinton; when Gore ran for President he was tainted by all the Clinton scandals.  Gore has a overweening desire to be President. If he ran he could kill two birds with one stone &#8211; being Prez and defeating the Clintons.</p>
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		By: Alan Srout		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/02/17/al-gore-for-president/#comment-4188</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan Srout]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The petitionWe, the undersigned condemn the Berkeley City Council?s treasonous attack on US Marine Recruiters stationed in their city. We ask that Congress cut off funds from any and all municipal entity within the confines of the city of Berkeley, California, until such time as the city council withdraws it?s action.The City Council has voted to tell the Marines their downtown recruiting station is not welcome and ?if recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome guests.?The measure passed last week by a vote of 8-1.The council also voted to explore enforcing a city anti-discrimination law, focusing on the military?s ?don?t ask, don?t tell? policy.In a separate item, the council voted, also 8-1, to give the Marxist protest group Code Pink a parking space in front of the recruiting office once a week for six months and a free sound permit for protesting once a week.http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/cutoffberkeleynowIf you wish to, please share with your friends or e-mail to your address books. You DO NOT have to donate at the petition site, there will be a page asking for one for the site after you sign, just back out or exit. Your signature will already be on the petition.http://www.fourfriedchickensandacoke.blogspot.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The petitionWe, the undersigned condemn the Berkeley City Council?s treasonous attack on US Marine Recruiters stationed in their city. We ask that Congress cut off funds from any and all municipal entity within the confines of the city of Berkeley, California, until such time as the city council withdraws it?s action.The City Council has voted to tell the Marines their downtown recruiting station is not welcome and ?if recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome guests.?The measure passed last week by a vote of 8-1.The council also voted to explore enforcing a city anti-discrimination law, focusing on the military?s ?don?t ask, don?t tell? policy.In a separate item, the council voted, also 8-1, to give the Marxist protest group Code Pink a parking space in front of the recruiting office once a week for six months and a free sound permit for protesting once a week.<a href="http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/cutoffberkeleynowIf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/cutoffberkeleynowIf</a> you wish to, please share with your friends or e-mail to your address books. You DO NOT have to donate at the petition site, there will be a page asking for one for the site after you sign, just back out or exit. Your signature will already be on the petition.<a href="http://www.fourfriedchickensandacoke.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.fourfriedchickensandacoke.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		By: Tophe		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/02/17/al-gore-for-president/#comment-4187</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Paul is closer to Kucinich than to many (not all) Republicans. He voted against the PATRIOT Act because it reduces our liberties. How many other Republicans voted against it? Paul&#039;s personal position is against abortion, but he also is opposed to legislating any national restrictions on abortion. He opposes any legislation against same-sex unions. Definitely not your typical Republican.While Obama and Clinton may be left of center in the US, they are right of center when considering all western democracies. Personally I don&#039;t see much difference between the 2 parties, but that is probably because I fall in the left libertarian corner. People who fall in the right authoritarian corner probably see enough of a difference between the 2 parties to identify with one or the other. And or course, some people will pick one party (or candidate) over the other as a matter of choosing the lesser of 2 (perceived) evils.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Paul is closer to Kucinich than to many (not all) Republicans. He voted against the PATRIOT Act because it reduces our liberties. How many other Republicans voted against it? Paul&#8217;s personal position is against abortion, but he also is opposed to legislating any national restrictions on abortion. He opposes any legislation against same-sex unions. Definitely not your typical Republican.While Obama and Clinton may be left of center in the US, they are right of center when considering all western democracies. Personally I don&#8217;t see much difference between the 2 parties, but that is probably because I fall in the left libertarian corner. People who fall in the right authoritarian corner probably see enough of a difference between the 2 parties to identify with one or the other. And or course, some people will pick one party (or candidate) over the other as a matter of choosing the lesser of 2 (perceived) evils.</p>
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		By: Tyler DiPietro		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/02/17/al-gore-for-president/#comment-4186</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tyler DiPietro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tophe, I find it hard to take that mapping seriously when it contains crapola like this:&lt;i&gt;&quot;For example, Ron Paul on the social scale is actually closer to Dennis Kucinich than to many figures within his own party.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;That alone is enough to let you know that this &quot;compass&quot; didn&#039;t do its homework. And there is no transparency, from what I can see, in how they plotted the candidates.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tophe, I find it hard to take that mapping seriously when it contains crapola like this:<i>&#8220;For example, Ron Paul on the social scale is actually closer to Dennis Kucinich than to many figures within his own party.&#8221;</i>That alone is enough to let you know that this &#8220;compass&#8221; didn&#8217;t do its homework. And there is no transparency, from what I can see, in how they plotted the candidates.</p>
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		By: blf		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/02/17/al-gore-for-president/#comment-4185</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[By &quot;the Telegraph&quot;, I assume the British newspaper often called The Torygraph is meant.  Whilst The Torygraph is a serious newspaper, it isn&#039;t the most reliable; if anything, it&#039;s reliably unreliably.  Basically, without confirmation. I&#039;d be highly suspicious of anything published in either The Daily or Sunday Torygraphs.The Observer&#039;s article about Gore and his (possible) role at the convention, &lt;EM&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/17/uselections2008.hillaryclinton&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gore emerges as power broker while Clinton hopes for a lifeline&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/EM&gt; says Gore and a number of other well-known people in the party are deliberately stating neutral:&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Gore emerged yesterday as a possible mediator who could negotiate a resolution if the primary campaign ends in a stalemate and has to be decided by the party convention, where divisions are likely to run deep.The former vice-president ... is among a number of party &#039;elders&#039; who plan to remain neutral in order to keep such an option open, the New York Times reported yesterday.They are increasingly concerned that the momentum built up by Clinton and Obama&#039;s enthralling race could be squandered if neither lands a knockout blow and the nomination is decided at the convention by [a backroom deal] with an elite of 796 Democratic &#039;super-delegates&#039;.A perception that a backroom deal had ignored the wishes of millions of voters could be a gift to the Republicans ...&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;That&#039;s far more plausible then the reported Torygraph version, which (being rapidly rightwing) probably are trying to scare people by muttering &quot;Gore Gore Gore ... &lt;E&gt;Gore!&lt;/EM&gt;&quot;  They may be technically right in that it is technically possible, but highly unlikely.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By &#8220;the Telegraph&#8221;, I assume the British newspaper often called The Torygraph is meant.  Whilst The Torygraph is a serious newspaper, it isn&#8217;t the most reliable; if anything, it&#8217;s reliably unreliably.  Basically, without confirmation. I&#8217;d be highly suspicious of anything published in either The Daily or Sunday Torygraphs.The Observer&#8217;s article about Gore and his (possible) role at the convention, <em><a HREF="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/17/uselections2008.hillaryclinton" rel="nofollow">Gore emerges as power broker while Clinton hopes for a lifeline</a></em> says Gore and a number of other well-known people in the party are deliberately stating neutral:</p>
<blockquote><p>Gore emerged yesterday as a possible mediator who could negotiate a resolution if the primary campaign ends in a stalemate and has to be decided by the party convention, where divisions are likely to run deep.The former vice-president &#8230; is among a number of party &#8216;elders&#8217; who plan to remain neutral in order to keep such an option open, the New York Times reported yesterday.They are increasingly concerned that the momentum built up by Clinton and Obama&#8217;s enthralling race could be squandered if neither lands a knockout blow and the nomination is decided at the convention by [a backroom deal] with an elite of 796 Democratic &#8216;super-delegates&#8217;.A perception that a backroom deal had ignored the wishes of millions of voters could be a gift to the Republicans &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s far more plausible then the reported Torygraph version, which (being rapidly rightwing) probably are trying to scare people by muttering &#8220;Gore Gore Gore &#8230; <e>Gore!&#8221;  They may be technically right in that it is technically possible, but highly unlikely.</e></p>
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