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		By: greg laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lucas,Now that Macs run on *nix, they are certainly more stable than ever before.  :)I actually like Macs quite a bit.  As I&#039;ve said before, I don&#039;t like Aqua, and for various reasons can&#039;t use it.It is true that a run of the mill Linux installation doing typical things on typical hardware does not require any editing of text based configuration files, but it is also true that Linux is a system for Linux-people (and not everyone is) much in the same way that a Mac is for Mac people.Windows, on the other hand, is the system forced on us by marketing and fear tactics.  I personally view the Mac and Linux world as the collective good place populated by the good guys.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucas,Now that Macs run on *nix, they are certainly more stable than ever before.  :)I actually like Macs quite a bit.  As I&#8217;ve said before, I don&#8217;t like Aqua, and for various reasons can&#8217;t use it.It is true that a run of the mill Linux installation doing typical things on typical hardware does not require any editing of text based configuration files, but it is also true that Linux is a system for Linux-people (and not everyone is) much in the same way that a Mac is for Mac people.Windows, on the other hand, is the system forced on us by marketing and fear tactics.  I personally view the Mac and Linux world as the collective good place populated by the good guys.</p>
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		By: Lucas		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/01/02/that-hard-to-find-textinfo-inf/#comment-2461</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lucas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Terminal can be found in /Applications/Utilities in finder.  I have it in my dock, and it is one of my most frequently used applications.  I find it useful in file management, programming, text editing, or ssh-ing.  To upload data, it&#039;s usually ftp, sftp or scp.I&#039;m a Mac user, and I find your posts interesting.  Occasionally, they are useful.  I think I have a similar view of Linux that many Linux fanatics have of Macs.  I tried Linux for almost 3 years (from 1999-2001).  I found it annoying to use, and frequently difficult to configure.  It&#039;s not that I&#039;m opposed to text configuration files, but for most of the very basic things I do with a computer, it&#039;s so much easier to just use a Mac and use the GUI than to mess around with a bunch of config files in /etc.  (For example, it took me about 10 minutes to go from ignorance to sharing my printer with my GF&#039;s Windows machine.  A similar trick on Linux several years ago took me several hours.)  I&#039;ve heard that Linux distributions have gotten very good in the intervening 6 years, but my computer works fine.  I&#039;m fine with that.  Maybe we should all be fine with whatever (non-M$) operating system choices others make.  Can&#039;t we all just get along? ;-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terminal can be found in /Applications/Utilities in finder.  I have it in my dock, and it is one of my most frequently used applications.  I find it useful in file management, programming, text editing, or ssh-ing.  To upload data, it&#8217;s usually ftp, sftp or scp.I&#8217;m a Mac user, and I find your posts interesting.  Occasionally, they are useful.  I think I have a similar view of Linux that many Linux fanatics have of Macs.  I tried Linux for almost 3 years (from 1999-2001).  I found it annoying to use, and frequently difficult to configure.  It&#8217;s not that I&#8217;m opposed to text configuration files, but for most of the very basic things I do with a computer, it&#8217;s so much easier to just use a Mac and use the GUI than to mess around with a bunch of config files in /etc.  (For example, it took me about 10 minutes to go from ignorance to sharing my printer with my GF&#8217;s Windows machine.  A similar trick on Linux several years ago took me several hours.)  I&#8217;ve heard that Linux distributions have gotten very good in the intervening 6 years, but my computer works fine.  I&#8217;m fine with that.  Maybe we should all be fine with whatever (non-M$) operating system choices others make.  Can&#8217;t we all just get along? 😉</p>
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		By: dave X		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/01/02/that-hard-to-find-textinfo-inf/#comment-2460</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 11:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#039;apt-get install dwww&#039;Then you get a cgi-driven set of web pages on your system accessible through http://localhost/dwww/ that combines man, texinfo, and the /usr/share/doc/ information.  It is searchable, and provides nice related documentation all in an integrated interface.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;apt-get install dwww&#8217;Then you get a cgi-driven set of web pages on your system accessible through <a href="http://localhost/dwww/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://localhost/dwww/</a> that combines man, texinfo, and the /usr/share/doc/ information.  It is searchable, and provides nice related documentation all in an integrated interface.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/01/02/that-hard-to-find-textinfo-inf/#comment-2459</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 09:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frank:  I&#039;ll put that on my list of things Frank wants me to do.Seriously, I never met a Mac person who wanted the tiniest bit of information from me.  All you need to do if you have a mac is click on something with your two button mouse and it will work.I would like to know a little more. Saturday, when the mac would not shut down because of a piece of software was running, and that software could not be found on the Aqua task bar, it would have been nice to know how to get to a terminal.But it was easer to yank the plug out of the wall.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank:  I&#8217;ll put that on my list of things Frank wants me to do.Seriously, I never met a Mac person who wanted the tiniest bit of information from me.  All you need to do if you have a mac is click on something with your two button mouse and it will work.I would like to know a little more. Saturday, when the mac would not shut down because of a piece of software was running, and that software could not be found on the Aqua task bar, it would have been nice to know how to get to a terminal.But it was easer to yank the plug out of the wall.</p>
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		By: Frank Oswalt		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/01/02/that-hard-to-find-textinfo-inf/#comment-2458</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Oswalt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 07:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Since you post on Linux from time to time, it wouldn&#039;t hurt to learn a little bit about the differences between it and Mac OS X, so that you don&#039;t have to qualify all mentions of the latter with lots of caveats in those posts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you post on Linux from time to time, it wouldn&#8217;t hurt to learn a little bit about the differences between it and Mac OS X, so that you don&#8217;t have to qualify all mentions of the latter with lots of caveats in those posts.</p>
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		By: Craig Pennington		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/01/02/that-hard-to-find-textinfo-inf/#comment-2457</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig Pennington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 07:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Ed is installed on my system. &lt;i&gt;Get it outta here!!!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;But &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Ed is the &lt;em&gt;standard&lt;/em&gt; text editor!&quot;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;.&lt;br&gt;wq]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Ed is installed on my system. <i>Get it outta here!!!</i></p></blockquote>
<p>But <a href="http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html" rel="nofollow nofollow" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Ed is the <em>standard</em> text editor!&#8221;</a><br />.<br />wq</p>
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		By: Jeremy Henty		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2008/01/02/that-hard-to-find-textinfo-inf/#comment-2456</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy Henty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 06:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[*ahem*It&#039;s &lt;i&gt;tex&lt;/i&gt;info, not textinfo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*ahem*It&#8217;s <i>tex</i>info, not textinfo.</p>
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