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		By: greg laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2007/12/24/redefining-human/#comment-2216</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 23:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jim: That was fine until some orangutans started making fire at a research station in Borneo.  Then they (the ones in charge of these things) quickly raised the bar...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim: That was fine until some orangutans started making fire at a research station in Borneo.  Then they (the ones in charge of these things) quickly raised the bar&#8230;</p>
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		By: Jim Thomerson		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2007/12/24/redefining-human/#comment-2215</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Thomerson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 20:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whatever happened to the &quot;build a fire&quot; test?  If a creature builds a fire, then it is human.  If it does not, then it is not human.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever happened to the &#8220;build a fire&#8221; test?  If a creature builds a fire, then it is human.  If it does not, then it is not human.</p>
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		By: Colugo		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2007/12/24/redefining-human/#comment-2214</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t have a strong opinion about Filler&#039;s hypothesis, but I do object to designating a lineage as &quot;human&quot; merely due to bipedalism or proto-bipedalism.  Morotopithecus is an ape.  So are australopithecines, really.  Which makes &quot;apes&quot; paraphyletic (of course, nobody objects to the term &quot;monkey&quot; to describe OWM and NWM, even though this is also paraphyletic). Even &quot;H. habilis&quot; is a bit iffy, in my opinion.  Ergaster to us: definitely human, on the grounds of brains, behavior, and postcranial anatomy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a strong opinion about Filler&#8217;s hypothesis, but I do object to designating a lineage as &#8220;human&#8221; merely due to bipedalism or proto-bipedalism.  Morotopithecus is an ape.  So are australopithecines, really.  Which makes &#8220;apes&#8221; paraphyletic (of course, nobody objects to the term &#8220;monkey&#8221; to describe OWM and NWM, even though this is also paraphyletic). Even &#8220;H. habilis&#8221; is a bit iffy, in my opinion.  Ergaster to us: definitely human, on the grounds of brains, behavior, and postcranial anatomy.</p>
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