Comments on: Romney Has a Big Tent

By: Jessa

Jessa — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 20:01:01 +0000

Oops. Bad at the linky thing.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59088

By: Jessa

Jessa — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 19:59:33 +0000

It seems the wingnuts aren't too pleased with the speech either:

Romney's observation that "freedom requires religion just as religion requires freedom" and that "freedom and religion endure together or perish alone" was not something I would expect to hear from someone of deep faith.

Religion endures any circumstance. Faith exists independent of freedom. It survives the darkest, dankest prison cell. But freedom allows it to flourish.

I think Romney, with this speech, confirmed rather than dispelled the doubts about his faith and conservatism that have troubled his campaign. If the point was to fix his credentials as a bona fide conservative leader, he failed.

By: smilingface

smilingface — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 03:05:31 +0000

I had heard it but this speech further reiterates the fact that separation of church and state is rapidly dwindling in US. I am basically from India and I get very angry when politicians use religion or caste (india specific thing) for garnering votes but i have never seen any politician needing to defend their beliefs for running for any post. We have got many minority presidents and prime ministers. I don’t say that people don’t vote on basis of religion but a country like US with the level of educated population, it sounds very bizarre that a candidate running for such high post has to defend his belief and religion. We living in third world country are much better off but nowhere perfect in these matters.

I thought a mature democracy would ensure that these things gets slowly weaned off but my thinking has take big blow after this speech. I don’t see a bright future for our country too when a 200-year-old mature secular and democratic country is behaving in such a way.

By: scienceteacherinexile

scienceteacherinexile — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 17:29:29 +0000

Surely someone will (please) ask this dolt why freedom requires religion?
I realize the guy is not in touch with reality, but someone ANYONE, should ask him to explain the logic in this, even if it is bad logic. It just sounds like a random assertion unless I missed something.

By: Jason Failes

Jason Failes — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:59:06 +0000

” the religion of secularism.”

Basing public policies on observable facts and judging those policies by their obervable outcomes is a religion now?

When will they learn, government policy is suposed to be the best that we can all agree upon? Religions are idiosyncratic beliefs no one will ever agree upon. Basing your policy in any way on any religion, or even on vague religioniness, will inevitably lead to policies harmful to our everday secular interests. (and if Romney is elected, replace “inevitably” with “immediately”)

By: Kevin

Kevin — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:57:57 +0000

“features I wish were in my own…”

How about:
reason,
rationality,
or… reality?

By: Tulse

Tulse — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 11:27:40 +0000

My church’s beliefs about Christ may not all be the same as those of other faiths.

Yeah, like he is god separate from God the Father, just like the Holy Spirit — Mormons are literal tritheists. This is one of the sticky points he is trying to dodge in his speech, and I just don’t see the fundamentalists being convinced, especially since he explicitly avoided talking about more detailed aspects of doctrine.

By: user

user — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 02:37:40 +0000

WORDS

By: Moopheus

Moopheus — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:28:35 +0000

I just sent a brief message to the Romney campaign saying that this made it clear that I wouldn’t vote for him. Not that I was going to anyway, and I suppose that’s why he gets away with it. No one who’d be bothered by statements like “Freedom requires religion” was going to vote for him, so he doesn’t care about that.