https://gregladen.com/blog/2007/11/12/the-language-gene-foxp2/ Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:09:56 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.8 https://gregladen.com/blog/2007/11/12/the-language-gene-foxp2/#comment-441 Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:09:56 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2007/11/12/the-language-gene-foxp2/#comment-441 Thanks for commenting in such a clear way on this paper. I agree wit many issues with you and I have recommended this post on my blog.

]]> https://gregladen.com/blog/2007/11/12/the-language-gene-foxp2/#comment-440 Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:51:52 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2007/11/12/the-language-gene-foxp2/#comment-440 Greg, I’ve commented on your post at:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/palanthsci/message/30993I hope that’s enough (genuine) flattery for today.regardsRichard

]]> https://gregladen.com/blog/2007/11/12/the-language-gene-foxp2/#comment-439 Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:03:03 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2007/11/12/the-language-gene-foxp2/#comment-439 You have a long, thoughtful article there. And I do agree tht so-called science journalists tend to simplify and “frame”. However, reading other literature on Neandertals, behavior, and capacity for speech, rather strongly suggests(to me, at least), that there are other lines of evidence that suggest possible language. Which, incidentally, the writers of all these articles didn’t bother to comment on. What about, for example, the Kebara hyoid boine(which falls within the “modern” range of hyoid bones)? I’m not suggesting that we abandon caution here, but rather trying to put things in a reasonable context. Too much caution regarding Neandertals is as bad as too little — which is what some of these science journalists are guilty of.Anne G

]]> https://gregladen.com/blog/2007/11/12/the-language-gene-foxp2/#comment-438 Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:55:32 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2007/11/12/the-language-gene-foxp2/#comment-438 Hey! Stop trying to frame framing with your dastardly frame of anti-framiness!Er, I mean, isn’t it a shame what sloppy journalism will do?

]]> https://gregladen.com/blog/2007/11/12/the-language-gene-foxp2/#comment-437 Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:53:38 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2007/11/12/the-language-gene-foxp2/#comment-437 I’ve got to agree. I too was rather annoyed with all the “may”s that where being thrown around. You can’t tell if something could speak based off of it’s genes. Clone a Neanderthal and then we’ll see if it can speak. Create a transgenic chimp with two human FOXP2 genes and see if it can speak. Even then, if the animal is capable of speech it does not mean it is capable of language. There are several instances in humans where an individual has all the capabilities of speech but due to some malformation of the brain is not capable of language. There is no guarantee that Neanderthals where smart enough, or had the need brain structure to develop what we consider modern language.

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